January 4, 2013

Pastor Rick Warren on Hobby Lobby Lawsuit

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Any religion that cannot be lived out … at home and work,  is nothing but a meaningless ritual, as Pastor Rick Warren argues.

Statement by Rick Warren on Hobby Lobby Lawsuit:

“Every American who loves freedom should shudder at the precedent the government is trying to establish by denying Hobby Lobby the full protection of the First Amendment.  This case is nothing less than a landmark battle for America’s FIRST freedom, the  freedom of religion and the freedom from government intervention in matters of conscience.  Religious liberty is often called our “First Freedom” because it is the first phrase of the first sentence of the First Amendment of our Bill of Rights. Freedom to practice your religion is listed before the freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom to assemble, and the right to bear arms.  The first American settlers, Pilgrims, came to America for this very reason – seeking the freedom to PRACTICE their religion, which they were denied in Europe. This is the freedom that made America unique from all other nations.

Today, the government has tried to reinterpret the First Amendment  from freedom to PRACTICE your religion, to a more narrow freedom to worship, which would limit your freedom to the hour a week you are at a house of worship.  This is not only a subversion of the Constitution, it is nonsense.  Any religion that cannot be lived out … at home and work,  is nothing but a meaningless ritual.

Some flippantly say ‘A business cannot be a Christian’ but the truth is, every business is either moral or immoral, ethical or unethical, depending the values they base their business on. When the government starts coercing businesses to violate their religious, moral, and ethical values, that is a flagrant violation of our Constitution.

I predict that the battle to preserve religious liberty for all,  in all areas of life, will likely become the civil rights movement of this decade. If it takes a popular movement to reign in overreaching government, then Hobby Lobby’s courageous stand, in the face of enormous pressure and fines, will likely be considered the Birmingham bus boycott, where good citizens finally got fed up with having their rights trampled on, and decided to challenge those who favor conformity over freedom.

Regardless of your faith, you should pay attention to this landmark case, and pray for a clear victory for freedom of conscience.”

– Pastor Rick Warren

  • sue

    I agree with the above. BUT Hobby Lobby fired me after 8 years of loyal work. I had breast cancer Due to complications it was taking longer than planned. I was on my husbands insurance costing them nothing and they let me go. I don’t see why a company that treats a person like they did me and others should be given favors under religious rights. Evil hides behind religious rights.

    • Kay

      This is the type of “entitlement” thinking that is so very wrong in my opinion. This company did not owe anyone a “job for life”. You could express gratitude for the employment they gave you for eight years! Evil hides behind this type of “they owe me” thinking…it is called averice. An employer is not our mommy or daddy, we have to stop expecting employers to be God for us and take care of us for life and meet ALL our needs. “I am the Lord your God. You shall have no other gods before me.”

  • Miguel jr

    Pastor Ric Warren is absolutely right. ” Faith without work is dead” meaning if you can not practice what you believe is dead faith therefore useless. LET US STAND AGAINST POLICIES AND/OR LAWS THAT TAKES AWAY OUR FREEDOM

  • Kathryn

    I am a 55 year old woman who used pharmaceutical contraception for many years in my 20′s and 30′s. I have lost my uterus; suffered breast cancer; lost my thyroid; and have had a heart attack. I am alive at the moment, thanks be to God, but am convinced that my illnesses are attributable to using the pill.

    Perhaps in conjunction with the religious liberty aspect of these lawsuits, it may help to document scientifically the dangers and side effects of these medications. I find it inconsciousable that the HHS will mandate that employers will have to provide something so dangerous to its employees. It is the same as supplying them with cigarettes.

  • Jay

    I find it sad that Hobby Lobby has to lie to make a case. There is no scientific evidence that plan B causes abortions. In addition, Hobby Lobby was already providing these same birth control methods before Obamacare. Check the facts folks!!!! You may be surprised what you find!!!!

    • Jenny

      You may be surprised, Jay. One of the way Plan B works is by inhibiting implantation by altering the endometrium [i.e. the lining of the womb]. In other words, Plan B may cause a newly-conceived embryo to die (and be expelled) because it cannot implant itself in the lining of the womb. For this reason, some South American courts have found the Plan B drug to violate an unborn child’s constitutionally-guaranteed right to life.

      • Kay

        Well said!

    • http://www.facebook.com/wayneb36301 Wayne Brooks

      > Please provide the links where this info is located

  • http://NA Jim Price

    Been studying this issue for weeks, seems to me that H.L. is over reacting.
    Pastor Warren and most on this blog are following suit.
    I can find no evidence that anyone, will be required to purchase anything to do with sexually activity. The complaint, seems to be that, they will have to pay into an insurance fund that might cover this benefit for others.
    Right now we are paying for highways that others use to go a tavern, while others of us use the same highway to go to church. We may also be paying for cable TV that brings in all kinds of sex and violence, while you may only watch Christian programming. Millions of Americans live by another life style, we must cut them some slack and allow them space to enjoy their part of the constitution.

    • Mark

      > > The government does not force anyone to buy cable. While I agree that those who purchases a cable package are aiding every cable channel in their cable package, including those channels that play things that violate their faith or even good sense, that is his or her decision and something they have to answer for. They are not being forced to purchase the cable. Cable is not a necessity and the government does not force Americans to purchase cable. We have cable phone and Internet, which are both needed for my business. We have intentionally not purchased the cable portion because cable comes with channels that play things we believe are destructive to people.

      The fact that many people who try to embrace Biblical teachings bring cable TV into their homes does seem very contradictory, given they cannot by a package without in some way supporting every channel in the package. But that is an issue between them and God and as they grow in their relationship with God I am sure that at some point that will be an issue they will deal with.

      But the point here is the government has entered the role of forcing citizens to purchase an item and furthermore an item that clearly goes against the conscience of many. That is the problem. Hobby Lobby has done nothing to stop its employees from purchasing a product. I fail to see why anyone has a problem with Hobby Lobby not wanting to pay directly for a product that ends human life. Why would anyone put energy toward forcing anyone else to pay for something they disagree with. It just makes no sense … except when you follow the money … campaign money that is.

  • Virginia Hagan

    Please support Hobby Lobby by liking its Facebook page, shopping at its stores or on its online website. It’s a remarkable beautiful store. Thank you to Rick Warren. Always on point and well articulated….

  • http://www.plowcreek.org/bible_pacifism.htm Jim Foxvog

    As a Bible believing Christian, I’ve had to deal with a similar conflict all my life. The largest portion of our Federal income tax goes to support the military, which kills large numbers of people: men, women, friends, enemies, children, both born and unborn. This is wrong, so I can not in good conscience pay US income tax.

    • http://worldviewmatters.com Kathy

      > When Jesus instructed us to “render onto Caesar” he was instructing his disciples to pay their taxes to a godless empire. That included paying for militia and who knows what else.

      So far in America we at least have a chance to “have a say” in what our tax money goes for. Let’s spend our energies fighting for the lives of the unborn and for causes in harmony with His mandates.

      We need to work hard to envision the next generation to think–in harmony with Christ and the Bible. There’s a new distance learning course out aimed at helping Christian school teachers to envision and empower students–see Worldviewmatters.com and click Distance Learning Course if it interests you.

  • Bruce

    What we are not discussing is the effect on how we view business. By allowing Wheaton College (IL) to be exempt but requiring Hobby Lobby to comply the judiciary is adding another brick to the wall of separation between the “sacred” and the “secular”. This is also a problem because it supports the concept that God is only in the “religious institutions” not in all aspects of life.

  • http://www.king5.com/marketplace/money-saving-queen/coupons/183166361.html jerry maines

    we will keep hobby lobby in our prayer.if we don’t take a stand they will take all of our rights.one by one

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  • Debsanne english

    I will and have stood up for the Green’s stance. I promote it on facebook, my church, my family members, friends, and whenever/however I can. Grassroots efforts. I shopped there on Support Hobby Lobby Day last week. Applied for a job at my local Hobby Lobby (no reply unfortunately) and while off from employment have made some beautiful jewelry I hope to sell for income help. We must stand up as believers! Support this effort. Tell everyone about it!

  • Adamo Veritas

    Hobby Lobby already covered emergency contraceptives BEFORE the Obamacare mandate. If Obamacare never existed, they probably would still be covering it. Instead of suing the federal government, Hobby Lobby should be thanking Obamacare for making them aware of their own insurance policy. Ditto Wheaton College.

    • Asaph

      “Emergency contraceptives”?
      You mean, like deciding BEFOREHAND not to have illicit sex? Or, using a condom?
      Or, were you euphemistically meaning post-fornicating abortion drugs to destroy whatever potential baby might have been conceived?

    • G.Bailey

      > Adam Veritas, If you are going to throw out those kinds of accusations, you realy should give some sort of citation or evidence to support it.

      The reality is there is nothing to suggest your claims have any substance, but a lifetime of work from the Green family to show otherwise.

  • Paul

    Will we be allowed to use our sacrament marijuana in our worship or are you only concerned for freedom for YOUR religion?

    • Sallie Mae

      > Please look at the last paragraph of the article. The statement is,”Regardless of your faith you should pay attention to this landmark case and pray for a clear victory for freedom of conscience.” The Gentleman is not speaking for any particular Religion. He does happen to be a Christian, but his point is that if they change the First amendment that then the whole constitution is open for change and misinterpretation. This document has stood since the beginning of Our Country’s birth. Change for convince is a crime and should be treated as such.

  • http://comcast Ann

    We should all think of something we can buy at Hobby Lobby today… something we need now or will need in the future… and buy it today to support the fight Hobby Lobby is waging to stand up to this evil, unconstitutional ploy to take away our freedom of worship rights.
    God Bless the courage and integrity of the Green Family.

  • T. A. Hayhurst

    Thank you for your stand and accept my prayers on your behalf.

    I support the “Hobby Lobby’ stand and the issue of freedom of worship as the Bible states. The government has over stepped it role in this issue.

  • Ramona Youmans

    IF GOD is for us (Hobby Lobby), who can stand against us.
    In JESUS’ NAME …. you are defeated lying devil.
    We love JESUS and we love y’all at HOBBY LOBBY!!! :)

    Blessings,
    Ramona Youmans

    • Darlene Bultemeier

      Amen on taking a stand with Hobby Lobby. They will get my business because of their stand against Obamacare. I think it is imperative that we take a stand and should let our voices be heard instead of taking a back sit. May all our citizens come together in a loud clear voice and start opposing such freedoms of religion on which our country was founded. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid are the runination of our Country. I pray that our country bounces back. My tax dollars are partcally going to Planned Parenthhood. I resent that and being forced to pay for Obama care. It is not free along with all the entitlements that the younger generation do not have to work for.

  • Josh

    To all, you have the right to seek employment elsewhere if you don’t like your pay, benefits, or boss. Argue you may but this it what makes America great and allowes you to have and make choices. The government has no place in requireing any Privet entity to do anything for there employees. If you want more or better benefits look for a different job.

  • http://www.soterhealth.com David Mair

    Thank you for supporting this important issue. The Greens are trying to be true to Acts 5:29 and James 2:14 in their personal and corporate lives and warrant the prayerful support of other Christians.

    Chief Justice Roberts wrote earlier this year with regard to the Affordable Care Act that Americans who are dissatisfied with the law must make their voices known through Congress. Toward that end, we have launched a petition drive at the official White House site. It may be found at http://1.usa.gov/XEBNAz . We hope that Christian men and women will raise their voices in ways that honor God and preserve our freedom of religion, not just worship.

    May God bless the Greens in their endeavors to honor Him.

  • Sandra Jensern

    We too are praying and are ashamed of our people who back this. Freedom to pray in the open and attend what every church you believe in is the first amendment rights and so we too will be praying.

  • paula gillin

    Bro. Rick, I agree totally with you on the Hobby Lobby issue. An issue that every Christian is going to eventually have to take a stand on. We have to stand together on this. Of course we know the end of the ‘story’ and who wins!:) Thank you, Paula

  • http://carlachenoweth.blogspot.com Carla Chenoweth

    I am very proud to finally see a company take a stand for God’s Word. I am in total agreement with the decision Hobby Lobby has taken and I will stand with them anyway that I can.

    Sincerely,
    Carla Chenoweth

  • Kandi

    We, as a home that serves the Lord, will be praying that the Lords will be done in this matter, and we are so tired of the governments infringements on our rights, it is so sad to see things like this transpire in America! Also praying that God lift the veil off of eyes of the politicians that are enforcing these fallacies, and condoning the “twisting” of our once great nations constitution!

  • Davlyn

    Yes and Amen!

  • Caleb Yonker

    How does one support Hobby Lobby in its lawsuit against the government and this policy?

  • Diane Brown

    We are standing with you, Hobby Lobby!

  • Jeremee Cloud

    Would like ALL of our Representatives to read & digest this. Will our church come out puplicly for Hobby Lobby?

  • Mary Ann Brining

    I live in OKC where Hobby Lobby began and where the Greens live. They are lights in a dark world and you are so right: we need to pray for a victory in this case and support these wonderful Christians in their stand for right!

  • Madonna Crosland

    The statement “Any religion that cannot be lived out..at home and work, is nothhing but a meaningless ritual” expresses my belief so well in words that I have not been able to articulate. Thank you so much. This mandate makes a farce of our constitution and it is unconscionable that our administration is forcing it upon us. Thank you for your stand. I stand with you and may all Christians in this land unite in one very loud voice against the forces of evil coming our way.

    • Madonna Crosland

      Thank you for your stand. Your comment that “Any religion that cannot be lived out at home and work, is a meaningless ritual’ is spot on and articulates my belief in words that I have not had before. Thank you for that point. I stand with many Christians in opposing this farce to our Constitution and our basic religious rights. May all our citizens come together in a loud voice opposing such basic freedom upon which our country was founded.>